I’d rather my sub clan be all descended from one Arab, than for my sub clan to be fake. [15][16], In 1920, the British air force commenced their bombardment of Dervish fort and their ground assault on Taleh fort. mtDNA (M) L0a1d Y-DNA (M) T-FGC92488. Your clan has several founders. https://www.google.com/amp/s/blogs.ancestry.com/cm/whos-more-irish-you-or-your-sibling/amp/, Ladies, Im going to give you a cheat code on finding a great man, How long will it take for westernized muslims to create a 2nd testament, Out of boredom, who can dm me a clubhouse invite. Now choose for yourself; if you want war we accept it, if you want peace pay the fine. There are lots of Habar Jeclo with T1a. You must log in or register to reply here. mtDNA (M) L0a1d Y-DNA (M) T-FGC92488. Beentii reer sheekh Isaxaaq ee ahayd oday qudhaa wada dhalay maantay soo gabogabootay ka dib markii DNA laga qaaday 201 isaaq ah oo u badan Subeer awal iyo garxajis. The Dhulbahante (Somali: Dhulbahante, Arabic: دلبةنتئ ‎) is a Somali clan family, part of the Harti clan which itself belongs to the largest Somali clan-family — the Darod. Most big sub-clans are probably fake, even when they have the same haplogroup, probably different sub-clades. There are also numerous existing hagiologies in Arabic which desc… This was a subclade of E-V32 dubbed E-Y17859, itself a subclade of E-Z813. It's not from modern/Islamic-era Arabs. [17], The Journal of the Royal Geographical Society, Volume 19, p. 63, 1848, Ethnographie Nordost-Afrikas: Die Materielle Cultur Der Danakil, Galla Und Somal, 1893, Official History of the Operation, Volume 1. p. 49, In pursuit of The Mad Mullah, Malcolm McNeil. The Habr Je’lo (Somali: Habar Jeclo, Arabic: هبر جعلو ‎, Full Name: Muuse Sheikh Ishaaq ibn Ahmad) is a major sub-clan of the wider Isaaq clan. Quite the same Wikipedia. Idiotic argument. Recombination doesn't challenge the authority of population clusters. I have seen T1a Habar Jeclo (Xasan Cabdulle) aswell and Tol Jeclo which both belong to the Habar Habusheed branch of Isaaq. Zaki199105 22:35, 24 January 2020 (UTC) In the clan tree section the Habar Jeclo tribe link keeps redirecting to the Isaaq page even though there is an article about the Habar jeclo. Hadda unbaana la billaabayaa in la adeegsado qalabka DNA-da ee lagu baaro dhalashada. There are lots of Habar Jeclo with T1a. JavaScript is disabled. It's not from modern/Islamic-era Arabs. The Habr Je'lo are divided into three further sub-clans: the Mohamed Abokor, Musa Abokor, and Omar. Garxajis. For the first time, new DNA technology is being used to trace human history in Somaliland in eastern Africa. Dire Dawa (ድሬ ዳዋ, Dirre Dhawaa, lit. – Here is great material to explore, says Anders Götherström, professor of molecular archeology at Stockholm University. It illustrates the clan tree and kinship The redirection should be removed and it shall link to habar jeclo article directly. The Habr Je’lo coastal settlements and ports, stretching from near Siyara in the west to Heis (Xiis) in the east, were important to trade and communication with the Somali interior. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register. Haji Sudi, the highest ranking Dervish after Mohammed Abdullah Hassan and Ibrahim Boghol, commander of the northern Dervish army died valiantly defending the Taleh. You are not a real clan. Aden April 11, 1901.[13]. The burden of proof is on those that claim arab descent, not on me. The optimism of Colonel Sadler and Lieutenant-Colonel Swayne in the latest reports relating to military operations is inexplicable. 308, 309, 315, 318, 319. LHISTORY OF SHEIKH ISAAQ BIN AHMED BIN MUHAMMAD (AL-HASHIMI) History of Sheikh Isaaq Binu Ahmed. Ministero della Guerra, Comando del Corpo di S.M./Ufficio Storico: SOMALIA, Vol. The Habr Je'lo played a prominent role in the livestock and frankincense trade during the pre-colonial period. There's a clan in another area of Eastern Somaliland that have been incoporated into the Habar Jeclo but are still genologically distinct and apparently they are Arabs/Indians.I think they are called Reer Dood. Further, to inform you that whatever people bring to you they are liars and slanderers. J1, A3b, and other types of E1b1b(xM78) may just be as Cushitic as those two big lineages in Somalis. The Habr Je'lo also partook in a major organised front to oppose British rule in the late 19th and early 20th centuries under the leadership of Haji Sudi and other subsequent anti-colonial leaders hailing from the same clan. I know but it gives a false narrative and people believe it's 100% accurate representation of their ancestry. Gabriel Ferrand, the Vice-Consul of France following these events observed that: Neither the Mahdi nor his chief adviser Ahmed Warsama, better known under the name Haji Sudi, nor the Sultan Nur, leader of the Habr Younis clan were killed or captured. Haji Suudi leading his clansmen declared war on the British lest they stop interfering with their religious and internal affairs. Sun, Sand and Somals - Leaves from the Note-Book of a District Commissioner, H. Rayne, Minister of Civil Aviation and Air Transport, "Changing Pastoralism in the Ethiopian Somali National Regional State (Region 5)", "Violent deeds live on: landmines in Somalia and Somaliland, p. 63", https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Habr_Je%27lo&oldid=1005340944, Wikipedia extended-confirmed-protected pages, Articles using infobox ethnic group with image parameters, Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License, This page was last edited on 7 February 2021, at 04:49. A while back, probably about a year ago now, I noticed Yfull added a subclade found among Somalis into their tree. I have seen Habar Jeclos on 23andMe with E-V32. According to some genealogical books and Somali tradition, the Isaaq clan was founded in the 13th or 14th century with the arrival of Sheikh Isaaq Bin Ahmed Bin Mohammed Al Hashimi (Sheikh Isaaq) from Arabia, a descendant of Ali ibn Abi Talib in Maydh. The Habr Je’lo (Somali: Habar Jeclo, Arabic: هبر جعلو‎, Full Name: Muuse Sheikh Ishaaq ibn Ahmad) is a major sub-clan of the wider Isaaq clan. While the settlements were not as significant as the more established ports of Berbera, Zeila and Bulhar (respectively), the principle Habr Je’lo port of Kurrum (Karin) was a major market for livestock and frankincense procured from the interior,[7] and was a favorite for livestock traders due to the close proximity of the port to Aden. [2][3][4] They also have a large settlement in Kenya where they are known as a constituent segment of the Isahakia community.[5][6]. I believe that is my result. Original Video Sourcehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOkZKiVUg10 What greatly enhances the value of Kurrum however is its proximity to the country of the Dulbahanta, who approach within four days of Kurrum, and who therefore naturally have their chief trade through that port.[8]. T1a is a Cushitic lineage and has been in Somalia for a couple of thousand years. The lands of the Isaaq T's and the Samarone are separated by the Habar Awal but I get what you mean.Also the Isaaq clan has a oral tradition of originating in the East.The tombs of the T-L208 Isaaq ancestors (Garxajis,Tol Jeclo etc) are in Maydh with the tomb of the Habar Awal ancestor being in Jidali.Do the Southern Dir have a tradition of originating in Sanaag aswell? The Dervish movement first arose in Burao in 1899, where in the summer of that year Dervish leaders and their clan followers congregated at the settlement. This website is for Somalian clan Reer Shiekh Isahaq. According to the British War Office, the Ahmed Farah, Rer Yusuf and Adan Madoba Habr Je'lo sub-clans were among the first to join the Dervish rebellion. 78 subeer awal ah dhamaantood waxay noqdeen Kolka laga reebo laba maxamed ciise ah Intooda kale waxay noqdeen HG E-v32 halka 65 Garxajis kii badankoodu noqdeen HG T. Waxaa kaloo layaab noqotay in beesha habar jeclo ay u … [1], The Habr Je’lo reside in eastern Togdheer, eastern Sahil, western Sanaag and western Sool regions in Somaliland. p. 123, Official History of the Operation, Volume 1. p. 41, Official History of the Operations in Somaliland. J. Hayes-Sadler, His Britannic Majesty's Consul-General, Somali Coast Protectorate. 1901–1904 Vol. You can't fake them. This sub-clan also inhabits the Somali region in Ethiopia, especially in the Degehbur zone. Historically, the Mohammed Abokor were chiefly nomadic pastoralists, whereas the Musa Abokor and Omar obtained much of their wealth via their frankincense plantations in the mountainous interior adjacent to the coastline. mahoka SomaliNet Super Posts: 6891 Joined: Thu May 28, 2015 1:57 am Re: Are Habar Jeclo People Somalis ? Y-DNA (P) E-BY75676. These tests are bullshit I don't believe in them although one warsangali guy tested and turns out his haplogroup is j1 (M267). Ciidagale 1; Lineage-CG-2; Habar Yoonis 2 (Isxaaq, Ali and Muusa Arreh) The Waraabe is OUT yall!! Just better. What we do. habar jeclo. Notice how the Somali person's sub-Clade is younger then the Egyptians by over 1,000 years. Qolada Isaxaaqu waxa ay haybtoodii hore ka guureen illaa 50 kii sano ee u dambeeyay oo aan aniga laftaydu soo gaadhay, halka ay reer Doodku iyagu beri dhaweyd uun toos u sheegteen Habar Jeclo. DNA Heritage FamilyTreeDNA Y-Search Previous Posts. The Habr Je'lo played a prominent role in the livestock and frankincense trade during the pre-colonial period. So I may test just for that. Y-DNA (P) E-BY75676. First of all, J1 may be part of the normal original Cushitic Y-package, in addition with A3b. Post Which subclan of Habar Jeclo do you belong too? Moreover, the Habr Je'lo played an influential role after the demise of the Dervish Movement in 1920, with Sheikh Bashir Yussuf and Farah Omar being important anti-colonial notables. Your clan has several founders. The Gadabuursi (Somali: Gadabuursi, Arabic: غادابوورسي), also known as Samaroon, is a northern Somali clan, a sub-division of the Dir clan family. Finally done with the Garxajis. I know but they're not accurate as they like to seem there are billions of of base pairs in the 46 chromosomes passed by your parents randomly so depending on what is passed on so results may vary even among siblings I believe that DNA tests are good for telling what genetic diseases you have or you are more prone to although I may test because of that warsangali guy that had haplogroup j1 since we are the purest daroods that proves we was Arabs. But don't sweat it, you are still pure Cushite. Sheikh Isaaq Bin Ahmed Bin Mohammed (Al-Hashimi) Bin Hussein was one of the Arabian scholars that crossed the sea from Arabia to the Horn of Africa to spread Islam around 12th to … Quite the same Wikipedia. But don't sweat it, you are still pure Cushite. Post by SahanGalbeed » Thu Sep 24, 2015 6:42 pm Anigu 23andme waaban ka shikisanahay oo free test iyo magacayga oo somali ah , nin walba isku dara kari e , ma aaminsani inaan somalidiina qaarkeed isku meel ka soo jeedno , wallahi iyo billahi . Kiiska Caa’isha+Raggii kufsaday oo la dilay+ Sida baadhitaanka hidda-sidaha DNA-dooda loo adeegsaday Writen by Qaran News | 12:07 pm 11th Feb, 2020 Labo qof oo maxkamad ay ku heshay kufsi iyo dil loo geystay Caa’isha Ilyaas ayaa maanta lagu dilay magaalada Boosaaso ee dowlad-goboleedka Puntland. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Just accept it. I, Dalle Original 1914, Roma, 1938- XVI, pp. He settled in the coastal town of Maydh in modern-day northeastern Somaliland, where he married into the local Magaadle clan. I quickly noticed that E-17859 was also shared with an Egyptian sample and more recently than I was expecting (~3,500 TMRCA with a formation date of ~4,500). The family tree of Habar Yoonis.. Habar Jeclo (Cibraan branch) Habar Jeclo, Sanbuur.. According to some genealogical books and Somali tradition, the Isaaq clan was founded in the 13th or 14th century with the arrival of Sheikh Ishaaq Bin Ahmed Bin Mohammed Al Hashimi (Sheikh Ishaaq) from Arabia, a descendant of Ali ibn Abi Talib in Maydh. [12] Before sending troops to confront the Dervish at Samala, Consul-General Hayes Sadler gave the following instructions to the commander Eric John Eagles Swayne: In the unlikely event of the Mullah offering to surrender, in his case and that of the Following: Haji Sudi, Deria Arale, Deria Gure Only an unconditional surrender should be accepted no guarantee of any kind to future treatment been given. In Somaliland, the Dhulbahante primarily settle in the regions of Sool, Sanaag, and Togdheer whilst they have a significant presences in Jubbaland, Somalia, particularly in the city of Kismayo. Just accept it. You are not a real clan. I p. 54. Among their prominent anti-colonial ideologues during the Dervish period were Deria Arale, Deria Gure, Abdallah Shihiri, Ibrahim Boghol and Haji Sudi, the latter is credited for importing Dervish customs into the Somali peninsula as well as being one of the original founders of the Somali Dervish Movement. Habar Jeclo come in - Page 2 | what's happening now. Although facing the British in multiple battles between 1901 and 1904, the colonial forces failed to in their efforts to apprehend Sudi, Arale, Gure and their fellow Dervishes. Every page goes through several hundred of perfecting techniques; in live mode. T1a is a Cushitic lineage and has been in Somalia for a couple of thousand years. September 1, 1899.[9]. I have also tested on 23andme and got a similar result. Haber Awal ( Af-Ingiriisi Habr Awal, Af-Carabi هبر أول , Magaca Oo Dhamaystiran: Cabdiraxmaan Sheekh Isxaaq ibnu Axmad ; sidoo kale loo yaqaan Zubeyr Awal, ama Subeer Awal) waa beel weyn oo Soomaaliyeed oo ka tirsan qoyska guud ee beelweynta Isaaq, waxaana loo sii kala qaybiyay dhawr beelood oo labada ugu waaweyn uguna caansan yihiin Sacad Muuse. Re: Are Habar Jeclo People Somalis ? So far all the DNA test results for Somali clans, including Isaaq, have shown that we are 100% East African and the only foreign ancestry we have is thousands of years old - long before arabs even colonised the arabian peninsula. Loool ya ibnu koombe kunta kante Al dhadhabi doqonyahow ma ada bila nasab ah and and … Sultan Nur, the Sultan of the Habr Yunis, may be guaranteed his life. Habr Je’lo traders acted as middlemen to Dhulbahante livestock herders in the interior by purchasing and/or bartering their stock for export to the Aden market: The last branch of the Western tribes is the Haber el Jahleh, who possess the sea-ports from Seyareh to the ruined village of Rukudah, and as far as the town of Heis. Just because only E1b1b and T1a are high in Somalis doesn't make it the only two 'real' Cushitic lineages. This treaty allowed the Dervishes to peacefully settle in Italian Somaliland with some autonomy. If they have both T-M70 and E-V32 it seems like their sub-clan is a confederation and not a real clan. [10][11] Moreover, The coastal Habr Je'lo sub-clans provided significant armaments to the Dervish forces in the interior. Genetics Habar Jeclo Y-DNA. There's nothing ''bullshit'' about those tests, they are pure science. Of these towns, Kurrum is the most important, from its possessing a tolerable harbour, and from its being the nearest point from Aden, the course to which place is N.N.W., consequently the wind is fair, and the boats laden with sheep for the Aden market pass but one night at sea, whilst those from Berbera are generally three. Ferrand Gabriel, 1903. p. 268. iyo Ciise Muuse. researches have proven that the arab DNA is found in a very small frequency in the somali population but T is appearing as the second haplogroup in the somali population....it was found among 17 somali males from dire dawa, presumably a dir folks. Further, to inform you that Mahomed, your Akil, came to ask from us the arms we therefore, send you this letter. Sorry for the delay.. He settled in the coastal town of Maydh in modern-day northwestern Somaliland, where he married a local Magaadle clan. Haji Sudi, along with Mohammed Abdullah Hassan and Sultan Nur led the first Dervish forces against the British at Samala, Ferdidin, Erigo and Gumburu. Waxa iyana intii xornimada ka dambaysay hayb bedeshay Fiqi Shinni oo ahaa Ajuuraan, haddase ah Ayaanle, Cayr, Habar Gidir. Originally Posted by lavrok. I find that hard to believe yes they could spot it but it may very in percentage due to the nature of DNA look at these sisters all have different percentage of Irish on them. Isaaq. Laakiin Dr Abubakr wuxuu sheegay in qabuuraha la soo qufay ilaa hadda ay yihiin kuwo aad looga argagaxo oo ka daran kuwii laga helay dhammaan meelaha kale dalka Liibiya tan iyo markii uu dagaalka sokeeye billowday sanadkii 2011-kii. Just better. The Habr Je’lo were one of the first clans in the Somaliland Protectrate to revolt against the Colonial government between the late 19th and early 20th centuries. [14], Abdalah Shihiri and Deria Arale led the 1904 Dervish delegation that facilitated the Ilig or Pestollaza agreement between the Dervish and Italy. Les Çomâlis. The dervish then proceeded to send this letter to Captain Cordeauxe and James Hayes Sadler: This is to inform you that you have done whatever you have desired, and oppressed our well-known religion without any cause.